Unpacking Education & Tech Talk For Teachers
Unpacking Education & Tech Talk For Teachers
Future Ready Librarians Framework 3.0, with Shannon McClintock Miller
In this episode, internationally recognized teacher librarian and Future Ready Librarians spokesperson Shannon McClintock Miller returns to share insights on the newly updated Future Ready Librarians Framework 3.0. With a focus on empowering learners and leading from the library, Shannon highlights the expanded role of librarians in today’s dynamic educational landscape.
She explains that today's school libraries are about far more than books; they’re about empowering students through multiple literacies that prepare them for the future. Shannon describes how the updated Future Ready Librarians Framework 3.0 reflects the evolving role of librarians as instructional leaders. She emphasizes that supporting students means going beyond reading literacy to include digital, media, and AI literacies. “We’re not only making sure we’re supporting our learners when it comes to using [AI] responsibly and ethically,” Shannon explains, “but also using it creatively.”
A key message in this episode is the importance of ongoing dialogue between librarians and students, families, teachers, and the broader school community. As Shannon shares, libraries should be inclusive spaces that support curiosity, innovation, and collaboration. The modern library is a cornerstone for future-ready learning, serving as an engagement hub for makerspaces, student-led projects, and meaningful conversations about responsible tech use. As Shannon reminds us, “Just think of the impact [librarians] have—not only in books and literacy but also in that love of learning, and curiosity, and innovation.” Visit AVID Open Access to learn more.
Unpacking Education Podcast Transcript
The Future-Ready Librarian Framework Version 3.0, with Shannon McClintock Miller
Shannon McClintock Miller 0:00
Being able to empower our students as creators, being able to collaborate, being able to curate resources, and now being able to support AI and all these literacies—that's where my passion is.
Rena Clark 0:18
The topic for today's podcast is the Future-Ready Librarian Framework Version 3.0 with Shannon McClintock Miller.
Rena Clark 0:27
Unpacking Education is brought to you by avid.org.
Rena Clark 0:31
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Rena Clark 0:41
Welcome to Unpacking Education, the podcast where we explore current issues and best practices in education. I'm Rena Clark.
Paul Beckermann 0:51
I'm Paul Beckermann.
Winston Benjamin 0:53
And I'm Winston Benjamin. We are educators.
Rena Clark 0:57
And we're here to share insights and actionable strategies.
Transition Music with Rena's Children 1:01
Education is our passport to the future.
Rena Clark 1:04
Our quote for today is from the Future-Ready Librarians hub on the Alliance for Excellent Education website. It reads: "Future-Ready Librarians challenges librarians, educators, and the community to see school librarians informed by the past, grounded in the needs of the present, and planning for a dynamic future."
Rena Clark 1:30
Not too easy of a task. There's just a lot going on in that quote. So I'm curious where you're going to attack it—what you're thinking about, Paul, Winston.
Winston Benjamin 1:42
The library that I went to as a child, which was a block away from my house, is closed. In the Bronx, New York, there's maybe one bookstore still to this day. For me, the school library was the one place that I could access books and other resources.
So for me, the importance of this isn't within any of the statements—it's the fact that there are kids who don't have access to books outside of school. If we're not actually doing the work to plan and support their future engagement in literacy, media literacy, and all the things that libraries can provide, I don't know how they can compete in the future.
Just thinking about my little kid self not having access to a library had a very big impact. No access to computers because we didn't have them in the home—it really limited a lot of what I could do. So this makes me happy that people are thinking about ways of supporting students in the school.
Paul Beckermann 2:43
As a former library media specialist myself, Winston, that breaks my heart that you didn't have access, because I know that's oftentimes one of the first places that districts look to cut, even within a school, thinking that it's expendable. But we know it's not. It's key. It's central. It's really important to the school's success.
I'm kind of stuck on the last part of the quote where it says "informed by the past, grounded in the needs of the present, and planning for a dynamic future." I like that balance. All three phases are so important. I think too often when we get preoccupied in the moment, we can tend to leave maybe the past or the future out of that. We have to remember that the past informs the present—there's a lot of good learning that has happened before us. And the future? That's where we're preparing our students to go. So we can't forget about that. I like the balance of it. And Winston, I think that library media specialist plays a key part in it.
Winston Benjamin 3:40
Absolutely.
Rena Clark 3:41
Absolutely. Libraries to me are still just a magical place. I was kind of like you, Winston, as a kid. Ours was more like—because it was a smaller town—it was a key role in just the community, a hub. I just remember summers as a kid earning my pizza passes and even painting a mural with the community. I loved going there. I was lucky to go out there with my mom and my brothers, and I just have very fond memories. I still love the smell of books. It's just memory.
Paul Beckermann 4:10
Did you get the little challenge cards where it was like a little map and every time you read a book you put another sticker on it?
Rena Clark 4:15
Yes! And now it's fun because in our area we have a great public library system. Now as adults, you can do a bingo card through our library system. That's really fun.
So anyways, we're all reminiscing, but I'm really excited to welcome our guest today, Shannon McClintock Miller. She's coming back to us, so welcome back, Shannon!
Shannon McClintock Miller 4:41
Yes!
Rena Clark 4:41
We are so lucky to have you. Shannon is an international speaker, consultant, and author. She serves at the preschool through 12th grade district teacher librarian level—so serving all of those grades, vast amounts of knowledge. She is a teacher librarian at the Van Meter Community School District in Iowa, and she also currently serves as the Future-Ready Librarian spokesperson and Future-Ready Schools National faculty member, working with librarians, educators, and students around the world every day. She's traveling all over, supporting people across the world. So welcome back.
Shannon McClintock Miller 5:20
Thank you.
Rena Clark 5:22
I introduced you a little bit, but we'd love to ground our listeners. If you want to maybe reintroduce yourself or let us know a little bit about you—what's important to you in your path so far?
Shannon McClintock Miller 5:33
Definitely. Well, thanks for having me back. I always love talking about libraries and education and kids in school. One of the things I love most about my work right now is that I do get to still be at my school in Van Meter and serve all of our kids. It's really exciting because we're building onto our school right now, and I get a new library that opens up in the fall.
Paul Beckermann 6:01
Wow!
Shannon McClintock Miller 6:03
I'm coming up on my 19th year there, and this is just a dream come true. That is really exciting because I get to take now that experience of all of this, and I actually have a design degree—an art degree—so it ties in perfectly with going full circle and bringing all these things that I love together.
But then the work that we're doing in Future-Ready Librarians right now—I feel it has never been more important. I know we're going to talk a lot about this tonight, the new framework that we have, the new version, and kind of breathing new life into what we do as librarians and supporting our librarians not only around the country but around the world in what we do.
Winston Benjamin 6:51
Thank you for sharing the conversation about what's going on with you with our listeners. But first of all, can you share a big picture vision for what the Future-Ready Librarian Framework is? What's the purpose of it? How can we use it to support students? What's the big picture about it?
Shannon McClintock Miller 7:08
Well, I think the great thing about the Future-Ready Librarian Framework is that it grounds us in how we can lead from the library, how we can empower our learners, how we can support not only the love of reading but protecting that freedom to read. It also shows how we have a role in our schools—not only in what we do in our library but also how we support what our teachers are doing, of course what our students are doing, our families and community, and all the new things that we have to be teaching and supporting our students with.
The great thing about the framework too is that it's grounded in the Future-Ready Schools framework. Everyone within a school has all these different tasks that they do within this framework—whether it's our administrators, our teachers, our tech directors. It gives us this common language that we can have when it comes to having these conversations within our school. It really ties in what we can do as librarians to be leaders too. That's what I love, because I know all these pieces go together in the framework to really lift up and amplify what we do as librarians but also push us forward and really be leaders.
That's what librarians can bring to a district—they can bring so many things that we have expertise in, be great leaders and teachers, and then also lead from our library and support our readers too.
Paul Beckermann 8:51
I love that. Now we're on version 3.0 of the framework, and I like that it's not just a static document—it's always changing. Could you talk a little bit about how it's evolved over the years and now maybe what are the key changes in this version as well?
Shannon McClintock Miller 9:04
Yeah, definitely. One thing that was really important for us from the beginning was not just to sit down as people who are on staff for Future-Ready or Alliance for Excellent Education, but to get our advisory group involved. We have advisors from all over the country who are also leading from their library, who are either directors or librarians. We have a few that are even at the college level that are supporting people who are getting their degrees in library science and having those conversations about things that are changing.
Of course, AI was a huge thing to add. Literacies changed from not just supporting literacy and supporting our readers, but supporting literacies—meaning AI literacy and media literacy, news literacy, all these different things. When it comes to AI, we're not only making sure that we're supporting our learners when it comes to using it responsibly and ethically, but also using it creatively. How can we use it through collaboration and really be leaders within that too?
Then a huge thing that we added was making sure that we added protecting the freedom to read. That was really important for us, especially with everything going on in libraries right now. We wanted to make sure that was a big part of what we also added to our framework.
I loved having this group that we worked together with. It was exciting to roll this out at AASL last month. I feel like I did—I tell my colleague Leah that I feel like I did when we first started eight, nine years ago with this and started talking about it and sharing it across the country and bringing it into our libraries and our districts. I feel like we have this new life in it that we really, really need right now, especially as we look at librarians across the country. Not just for our librarians, but for administrators to see and hear what this can do, and for our communities to really amplify the need for great teacher librarians in schools.
Rena Clark 11:34
Yes, so important. You talked about AI being just one of several new literacies. I'd like to dig deeper into some of those changes. Eight and nine years ago, especially as technology goes, is worlds away as we think about it. Could we maybe expand on some more of those newer or expanded literacies? It would be interesting to know more about some of those—digital, media literacy. What's been added on? How has it been updated? And as you said, why are they so important in this framework?
Shannon McClintock Miller 12:12
Yeah, absolutely. Being able to not only understand what those literacies are and really help our teachers understand that, but being able to support it—if we're teaching in our library these skills that we want our kids to have, I think about media and digital literacy and how important that is to not have it be something that we just talk about during digital citizenship week or media literacy week, but having that conversation with our kids on an everyday basis.
Having it be something that we as not only librarians but teachers remember to constantly be thinking of and just have it be something that's really natural—to support our digital citizens, to support our kids within our buildings. Also being able to think about these things not only as information and things that we want our kids to get, but how are we using—when it comes to, say, media literacy—how are we empowering our kids to be innovative and creative? How are we empowering them to think about being able to create information themselves and continue to do that?
I think that as we not only teach our kids but as we support and teach our teachers and our families too—that's a huge thing. I think about my own family and my own parents, who now—my dad's almost 90 and my mom's in her 80s—even them having questions about what is AI, what does it mean when ads pop up on my Facebook all the time, what about if I get a text on my phone from somebody I don't know.
Being able to support not only what happens in our school but have those partnerships too with our public libraries and our school libraries coming together to support our families—I think that has never been more important to be able to do that as well.
Winston Benjamin 14:19
That is so true, the need for experts to provide others with information, and I feel like that's where librarians land in terms of the information structure. Another thing that's changed in the framework is this inclusion of AI. Since AI is everywhere—you just mentioned your parents dealing with AI bots and all of these other things—what guidance does the framework offer in areas of being responsible using AI in schools or even in general? What supports do they have in terms of how to do it more responsibly?
Shannon McClintock Miller 15:03
There are two places in our framework that really support this. One of them is within that curriculum and instruction and assessment piece of what we do as librarians—being able to help them understand and to integrate it, how to use it ethically, how to use it safely, creatively, transparently, but really understand.
We're all in the same boat at my school, being able to create a policy about using it. Making sure that we as librarians get a seat at the table because of the way that we're supporting this within our curriculum. And then the other part is being an expert on how to use it. We've always been the ones to support research and information and technology, but now being able to really be the ones that can help guide our kids and our teachers in order to do that.
There are a lot of great things coming up. I think about when we use Book Creator and it's connected to Adobe Express—I can have even my young kids in kindergarten create a prompt to be able to create something out of AI. Maybe they colored something and put it into Book Creator, and we want them to create something else. Seeing those little light bulbs go off and then having that conversation about what that means to kids—it's pretty crazy. If you would have told me even two years ago that we would have had that opportunity to do that with kids and what that meant, it's just really neat to see.
But me as a parent and as a learner myself—we're still all questioning this, what it's going to mean, our policies, how are we going to teach it and support it. There are lots of things out there. There are people developing curriculums and experiences for kids. That's kind of where I'm at, especially this year—trying to pull those things together, what's right, and making sure that I really push us at my school to not be afraid of it but to open up these opportunities for us as learners, meaning teachers and students together, on how we're going to be using them.
Paul Beckermann 17:37
Well, I'm glad that the Framework 3.0 has included the AI thing because I have a feeling that we have not heard the last of the impacts of AI on our schools. I think that's only going to grow.
The other thing that the framework also addresses is learning spaces. You talked about your own learning spaces that are coming up—that exciting journey. What are some insights that you might be able to offer regarding reimagining our learning spaces—collaborative, flexible? What kinds of things do you think about?
Shannon McClintock Miller 18:08
Well, I think that one thing that is really neat now about when we think about our libraries and our learning spaces is making sure that there's a place for all students. There always has been when we think about our libraries, but being intentional to really be inclusive of all of our kids—that's been really fun going through this process of designing a library.
Thinking about not just quiet spaces or spaces where kids can be loud, but really thinking about the different ways—seating or where they want to be, or if you had a child in a wheelchair or if you had a child that maybe had a hearing loss. Thinking about those things really intentionally and making sure that our spaces are inclusive to the wellbeing of our students but also making sure that they support the collaboration and the partnerships that we have within the building and just that curiosity that we want our kids to have and that fascination toward inquiry, or whatever it might be. And then, of course, supporting the love of reading—how we can do that.
It's really been a fun process to do this. I've always had a library that's been great and has been the heart of our school, but I can't wait to see what this will bring even more to our community. It's great in this other work that I do, just hearing and seeing all the great things happening in spaces around the country.
Paul Beckermann 19:49
So I'm kind of curious—is there anything in particular that you're super fired up about with your new space coming?
Shannon McClintock Miller 19:56
Oh my gosh, I'm just so excited to have a designated makerspace in our library. It's kind of like this long library and we have different areas. We have one area that has these giant steps that will have cushions that will go down to the picture books, but that will serve as a place that kids can sit with a screen if we have something.
Then at the very far end we have a makerspace. Right next to it, there's a garage door that goes into our STEM room because we have a STEM teacher, and then a garage door that goes into the art room. I'm very excited—also having a degree in art and having a passion for STEM and makerspace and bringing that all together and envisioning what that's going to mean. We're just going to rock it at Van Meter!
Paul Beckermann 21:14
Sounds like destiny!
Shannon McClintock Miller 21:16
I am so excited about that, and I love how they really listened to that story that we told on how they designed that and how that was so important to us. Our library is not a huge, huge, huge giant space with 20,000 books. It's a library that serves our community and the space that we have, because we're still in a building with preschool to 12th grade all under one roof at Van Meter.
Being able to create this space is a huge thing for us, but really being able to think about that it's a great place for books but also the other things that libraries bring to our community. I think that collaboration is a huge deal for us as teachers and how we really help our kids be innovative and learn and be creative and just be good humans. I love that part.
Rena Clark 21:54
Well, I happen to know that here in Washington State, unfortunately, my own children no longer have a librarian. It is sad because the library is a special, special place. There are many places here where there are no longer librarians. Several of my friends, personally, I know were displaced this last year, and it was heartbreaking. It definitely has changed the culture in some schools.
So I have some very strong opinions, but I would love to hear from you and what you've seen, especially since you've been around all over the country. Just talking to the audience—why are librarians or media specialists so critical for the success of our schools and what they bring? Because it actually is breaking my heart that I'm seeing that they are getting displaced so quickly.
Shannon McClintock Miller 22:41
I know that breaks my heart too, but I see it all the time. I think the first thing is just building that love of reading and that reading culture that we want our communities to have and for schools to have—kind of like a heart of their school that's focused around literacy and those experiences that we can bring them.
I often say too that a library isn't just about the books—it's about the space that you make and it's about that person. It's that person in there. Librarians connect with all the kids and all the teachers and the community and the relationships that they have. So just think of the impact that they have, not only in books and literacy, but also in that love of learning and curiosity and innovation.
It's so important because we are the experts in so many things. To have my master's in library science and a teaching degree and another degree in art—a lot of things to bring it all together, whatever experiences that you have. But librarians have a role of being experts in so many different things and really being the ones that can support not only your kids and your teachers but even your administrators.
Getting a seat at the table and being a leader from your library is one of the best things that you can do because of this expertise and experiences that you have too.
Winston Benjamin 24:10
My question here is—I'm going to try to bring us back to the framework. One of the things with me and frameworks is they're sometimes daunting, overwhelming, so many pieces of things. Sometimes it's nice to get a good foundation from someone who's like, "Hey, try this piece, start here."
So the question that I want to ask you is, do you have a personal favorite part of the framework? If someone asks you what do you like the most, where would you direct them to?
Shannon McClintock Miller 24:41
That is a hard question.
Winston Benjamin 24:42
You're welcome!
Shannon McClintock Miller 24:45
I do a lot of work with librarians. Last week I was in Texas for two big all-day Future-Ready Librarian workshops. I'll tell you mine in a minute or what I think, but what I always try to tell people is to focus on something. Focus on two things. Start there. Focus on something that you're really good and passionate about, and then focus on something that maybe is tough for you—where do you want to improve?
Because honestly, it's hard to do everything at one time, right? I always tell people make a couple of goals and don't think that you have to do everything at once. That is really hard.
When I tell my story—I've been a librarian for 18 years—I love the piece of the curriculum, instruction, and assessment. I love being a teacher and I love being a librarian too, but being able to empower our students as creators, being able to collaborate, being able to curate resources, and now being able to support AI and all these literacies—that's where my passion is because I love the teaching part.
And then probably my other part of the framework is just that literacy piece and that love of reading and growing our lifelong learners and our collections to be great. But I really love them all. I love collaborating with my public librarian. I love collaborating with my superintendent. But to me, I think librarians right now—where we're going to find our strength and focus is that literacy and that curriculum piece, because we need to support our students and our schools in those ways.
Paul Beckermann 26:40
So some of our listeners—actually many of our listeners—are not librarians. So is this applicable to them? And if so, what should they be aware of?
Shannon McClintock Miller 26:49
Well, I think that again, if you go to Future-Ready Schools and you look up the framework that Future-Ready Schools has—everybody within a school has that—you'll see that each wedge of the framework are things that we all do, whether it is collaborative leadership or supporting the teaching and learning of our kids, or how we have community partnerships. There are things that we all do.
But I think that for leaders of schools that are listening, pull up the Future-Ready Librarian Framework and see what a future-ready librarian can do. Look for those—if you don't have a librarian or maybe you're looking for one, or you have one within your district—support them in this framework. But also, as you look to put people into your schools, make sure that you ask these questions and you look for these people that have these skills and this motivation and this inspiration that you see within the framework.
I think that's a great place to start because these are all qualities that we want our librarians to have and will help us not only in our libraries but in our schools to help support our kids for the future, to help support our learners that we have, and also take us into the future as librarians and as teachers and school districts too.
Rena Clark 28:21
I'm really excited. I always loved the framework even before—it helped me as an educator. I'm also curious, just with everything going on, whether it's the framework or anything else education, anything about librarians—we always like to ask, what's been on your mind lately? What have you been pondering? What are you excited about?
Shannon McClintock Miller 28:43
Oh my gosh. I mean, I'm so excited about so many things. I of course have a big passion for creativity and innovation, so lots of great things going on in the tech world. I love seeing—I've been to a lot of big conferences too this fall—and it's pretty exciting to walk around and see what ed tech companies are doing, but also what STEM companies are creating for our kids. Whether it's robotics or drones or gaming, I love that piece because I think that's going to make—I love how it ties into the actual learning that our kids are doing. So that gets me excited.
And then I just get excited—I went to AASL this fall and some other library-focused conferences, and I think that I feel that librarians—the positivity and the support that we give each other within our community, I think, is better than it has been in the last few years. I love that piece too, and that's something that I'm really excited about.
Winston Benjamin 29:56
That's awesome. Thank you so much for providing that answer in terms of what you're pondering and thinking about. But it's time for another question: What's in your toolkit?
Transition Music with Rena's Children 30:08
Check it out, check it out, check it out! What's in the toolkit? Check it out!
Winston Benjamin 30:19
What are you taking away? What have you added to your lexicon of activities, tools? What are you thinking about? Paul? Rena?
Paul Beckermann 30:28
I'm going to suggest people head on over to the Future-Ready website at futureready.org. As Shannon kind of mentioned, there are multiple frameworks on there—frameworks for district leaders, principals, technology leaders, instructional coaches, even school boards, librarians—for sure, get on there and check them out. See the crosscurrents that run between them and find the one that's most applicable to you.
Rena Clark 30:51
And then I'm going to add on to that. Actually, Shannon has a podcast—or there's the Future-Ready podcast, "Leading from the Library"—a great podcast, especially if you're a librarian, a little bit more targeted. So check that out as well. We always love supporting our fellow podcasters.
Shannon McClintock Miller 31:09
I was going to say that too. If it's not in your toolkit already, check out the podcast. Even for teachers and leaders within schools, it's great because if you're looking for something to inspire or an idea to talk to your librarian about, you can find it there. We're just kind of wrapping up season 11, already recording season 12, and it's just great. I get inspired each and every time I have somebody on.
Winston Benjamin 31:40
That's pretty much where my toolkit is. Check in with your librarian. Ask them what ways they can support you. What can they do? Even potentially, "Hey, I heard about the 3.0 Librarian Framework—what's going on? What are we using it for?" Engage with them.
Shannon, I'm going to ask you, what would you like to throw in? You've already plugged the podcast. Is there any tool, mental space, anything you'd like to throw in again?
Shannon McClintock Miller 32:15
Well, I always like to talk about my blog. I blog at "The Library Voice"—libraryvoice.com. I love to share lots of things that we're doing at our school but sharing things that I love and webinars where I'm at and different places that you can just continue that learning and wherever you're at and wherever you want to go. I bet you'll be able to find an idea there, so I always like to talk about that.
Paul Beckermann 32:44
All right, so with our bag full of tools, let's hop into our one thing.
Transition Music 32:48
It's time for that one thing, for that one thing, one thing!
Paul Beckermann 33:00
All right, one thing time. What's your final takeaway for the day? Rena, why don't you go ahead, go first?
Rena Clark 33:06
I was thinking it's about the space, the place, and the people, because it's really about the heart. I like that idea.
Paul Beckermann 33:12
Wow, that's quotable! That's like a t-shirt slogan.
Winston Benjamin 33:19
I'm going to continue your point, Rena. In my building, there are a lot of kids who use the library as a place to escape everything and for the benefit of just having a space to be comfortable in your skin. I think that's one of the best things about libraries, right? So I agree with you on that—the need to just have a space for kids to exist.
Paul Beckermann 33:48
Yeah, that's so important. I was focusing on the multiple literacies piece. I just think that continues to expand. Reading is critical and it's so important, but in our daily lives, just think of all the other literacies that we encounter every single day. If we don't have skills in those literacies—media literacy, AI literacy—we're going to struggle in this future.
Going back to that opening quote, we need to make sure that our students have the literacies that they will need to not just survive but thrive in that kind of a tech-rich world.
All right, Shannon, you get a one thing too. What's your final thought for our listeners today?
Shannon McClintock Miller 34:26
I think my thing to leave listeners with is to check in on your librarian, if you have one, and make sure you thank them because it's really hard work. Ask how you can support them. And if you don't have a librarian right now, ask those questions too—ask those important questions of why—and bring the framework and other things that we talked about tonight to those people as well.
Rena Clark 34:55
All right. Well, thank you so much, Shannon, for sharing the new Librarian Framework Version 3.0. Check it out. You can go to the website, download it, and it's beautiful. For those of you that like color, it's very visually appealing. To those of us that appreciate that, it's—to me—easy to follow. But I just want to thank you so much and thank you so much for your work and the things that you do around the country. We appreciate you.
Shannon McClintock Miller 35:21
Thank you so much.
Paul Beckermann 35:22
And good luck with your new library.
Rena Clark 35:24
Oh yes, that's so good!
Shannon McClintock Miller 35:25
You're going to have to have me back on and we'll talk about the new library.
Rena Clark 35:29
All right. Then we'll have to make sure we do video so you can show us pictures.
Shannon McClintock Miller 35:33
Yes, definitely! We can do it. I'll be in the library.
Paul Beckermann 35:37
Awesome!
Shannon McClintock Miller 35:37
Can't wait!
Rena Clark 35:38
Thanks for listening to Unpacking Education.
Winston Benjamin 35:42
We invite you to visit us at avidopenaccess.org, where you can discover resources to support student agency and academic tenacity to create a classroom for future-ready learners.
Paul Beckermann 35:54
We'll be back here next Wednesday for a fresh episode of Unpacking Education.
Rena Clark 35:59
And remember, go forth and be awesome.
Winston Benjamin 36:02
Thank you for all you do.
Paul Beckermann 36:05
You make a difference.